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Post by Brian the Flying Penguin on Mar 28, 2006 3:42:17 GMT -5
I've PMed you the Time Line. I was thinking of setting it around 2486, or 700 years before the present.
Thing about the navy is that since they haven't expanded it, we've sort of justified that action in such a way that it isn't very likely they would build a new ship now.
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Post by Norris on Mar 28, 2006 11:16:12 GMT -5
Maybe it could be a sort of navy for Rigel before the foundation of their Empire.
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Post by Brian the Flying Penguin on Mar 29, 2006 4:18:02 GMT -5
That was the sort of thing I was thinking, though more of a merchant vessel with a marine complement than a pure military ship. Though in the case of Rigel the First Empire started with the unification of the planet before they had a need for a space navy.
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Post by Norris on Mar 29, 2006 9:37:22 GMT -5
Then in that case, I'd go with your idea. But it depends on the kind of merchant ship, as there are several. To name a few: - Liners
- Packets
- Tramp Steamers
- Tenders
- Freighters
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Post by Brian the Flying Penguin on Mar 29, 2006 16:58:57 GMT -5
I think it unlikely that a star ship would be steam driven.
I was thinking that the ship would be using the most recent type of FTL drive, heading off into the unknown. But I would like input from the other potential participants.
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Post by Norris on Mar 30, 2006 11:42:09 GMT -5
I'm well aware of that, but what's in a name? Just because it's called a "tramp steamer" doesn't necessarily mean it has to be steam-driven.
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Post by Brian the Flying Penguin on Mar 30, 2006 15:52:43 GMT -5
A bit off topic, but if it wasn't steam powered why would you call it a steamer? The name does rather imply steam.
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Post by Norris on Mar 30, 2006 23:40:58 GMT -5
True, but I didn't know what Tramp-Steamers would be called in the 30th Century, as we simply have no existing examples, so I simply stuck to the original name rather than confuse everybody by giving it a futuristic alternative.
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Post by Kooshmeister on Apr 2, 2006 4:49:54 GMT -5
How 'bout just call it a derelict starship?
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Post by Brian the Flying Penguin on Apr 2, 2006 5:11:44 GMT -5
Because the idea is that it isn't derelict; its top of the line.
Getting back on track, we have Norris, The psyko ninja rabbit 2000, Zingydex (maybe), xvmuratvx and dAVID G (maybe). I would like to hear all of your thoughts on the setting.
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Post by Zingydex on Apr 3, 2006 10:10:58 GMT -5
Well, you've heard mine - I'd much prefer dealing with a pesent-day-ish setting. It's tough for me to come up with new characters, and none of the aniverse-compatible critters I've got now could be adapted to circa 2480 without adding something extreme to their background (dimension/time travel, other forced relocation, etc.). I mean, if something along that line is acceptable in a pinch, I'd do it, but ... well, you probably get my point.
And I still know essentially nothing about the Rigellian Empire outside of the basic history in that timeline (thanks, BTW). What was society like? What species were native to the region? And so on.
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Post by Brian the Flying Penguin on Apr 3, 2006 11:00:56 GMT -5
I'll write a full primer on Rigellian society if that is what we decide to do. They have a central monarchy with rich and politically powerful noble clans. At the stage I suggested they have conquered several less technologically developed worlds but are also interested in more equal trade relations. Aliens inhabitants of the empire are considered to have less value than full citizens, but the empire has no slaves in the formal sense.
What environment would you want the game to have instead? What differences between the times make translating your characters difficult?
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Post by Zingydex on Apr 3, 2006 11:30:39 GMT -5
According to your timeline, 2486 is a full two years before the empire expands into territory covered in the show - including the homeworlds of all the species my characters represent. (In case you're wondering, that includes a toad scientist, a genetically-engineered super-soldier created by same, and two Aldebaran artificers, one considerably more proficient than the other.) You can see the instant problem there.
As I said twice before, I prefer the modern-day aniverse, ie from Season One onward. While the web series pretty much ran the idea of a new UAC frigate into oblivion (on some downright foolhardy grounds at times), there's nothing stopping a privately-owned or even vigilante craft from operating. You also don't find yourself with the continuous creative strain the Star Trek: Voyager writers had of constantly having to come up with totally new environments, NPCs, and whatnot as the series constantly moved on to new areas of the galaxy.
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Post by Brian the Flying Penguin on Apr 3, 2006 14:39:26 GMT -5
The Rigellians wouldn't be moving that fast. Their aim would be to establish trade routes, not get as far as they can.
The Rigellians weren't the only ones with FTL. They encountered ships from the area covered by the show before they actually got to those planets themselves.
I agree about how silly the ban on U.A.C. military expansion has got. Scientists, even toad ones, would be right at home. Genetically enhanced soldiers would be a bit of a stretch, but other character traits could be caried over. Toads are fine, but would have a radically different character in the pre-KOMPLEX days.
Alright, but what sort of things would you want modern age characters to be doing?
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Post by Zingydex on Apr 3, 2006 21:26:41 GMT -5
If I may quote the timeline directly:
You'd have to bump your proposed setting ahead a few years for my charries to fit.
Anyhoo, if the modern-day folks were privateers/vigilantes as my (admittedly random) thought went, they'd be doing pretty much whatever they wanted. Unlike S.P.A.C.E., they wouldn't have any higher authority to answer to; they could bust toad heads without someone railing on them about regulations. On the flipside, it would be tough for such a crew to get fully legitimate supplies, which would force them to mingle more with the seedier side of the aniverse - and probably get into the occasional scrape there, too.
On the other hand, if we went with logic over continuity with the web series and commissioned a new S.P.A.C.E. frigate, we'd have a neophyte crew earning its stripes the hard way against the overwhelming numbers of the toads and the beaurocratic idiocy of the UAC. Much fun to be had either way.
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